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AstroDan
For some reason I thought this was a Hydraulic Launch... so it's not going to be as intense I guess. Still, looks great!
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[quote=""AstroDan""]For some reason I thought this was a Hydraulic Launch... so it's not going to be as intense I guess. Still, looks great![/quote]
I wouldn't say that dan, It still looks to be an intense launch.
I wouldn't say that dan, It still looks to be an intense launch.
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Think this coaster was mentioned briefly in another topic, but now it has a name.
Miribilandia, famous for TTF's 7th favourite Euro coaster "Katun" as well as "iSpeed", are building a new dueling family coaster "Master Thai".
It will cost €5 million.
It is rumoured heavily to be a larger version of this festival of WTF from Preston & Barbieri (who brought us Phantasialand's new monorail):
Skip to exactly one minute into this video to see promo artwork and a model of the ride.
Looks amazingly well landscaped, but a weird choice of manufacturer for such a major park!
Miribilandia, famous for TTF's 7th favourite Euro coaster "Katun" as well as "iSpeed", are building a new dueling family coaster "Master Thai".
It will cost €5 million.
It is rumoured heavily to be a larger version of this festival of WTF from Preston & Barbieri (who brought us Phantasialand's new monorail):
Skip to exactly one minute into this video to see promo artwork and a model of the ride.
Looks amazingly well landscaped, but a weird choice of manufacturer for such a major park!
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I'm sure many will notice that the picture used on that page is in fact Silver Star. I doubt it will be a B&M hyper though as it seems like Port Aventura will be getting the world's tallest B&M. In my dreams I am thinking Intamin Giga/ Intamin Prefab or Gravity Group but it really could be anything at this point. If it is something like that, then this park will have one hell of a coaster line up, already being home to the highly rated Katun and iSpeed. I will be on the lookout for more information as it comes out!
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EDIT: The 'but not like Kingda Ka' part seems to rule out any kind of launch system, so maybe the world's highest coaster with a traditional lifthill?
Seems to be little solid information as yet, but this sounds very promising! Airtime, worlds's highest and therefore likely fastest (in it's category)! Of course this doesn't gaurantee a spectacular ride, it could be the world's highest Gerstlauer Bobsled or something <!-- s:P -->:P<!-- s:P -->What is certain is that the coaster 's new Wonderland 2012 will be the highest in the world in its category, and therefore likely also the fastest in its class. This was evident yesterday by the Head of Communications Mirabilandia John Scafoglio .
Another clue is Air Time , which suggests, albeit indirectly at, finally, another phrase. It will be higher, but not like Kingda Ka .. . these more or less the words used by John Scafoglio .
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I'm sure many will notice that the picture used on that page is in fact Silver Star. I doubt it will be a B&M hyper though as it seems like Port Aventura will be getting the world's tallest B&M. In my dreams I am thinking Intamin Giga/ Intamin Prefab or Gravity Group but it really could be anything at this point. If it is something like that, then this park will have one hell of a coaster line up, already being home to the highly rated Katun and iSpeed. I will be on the lookout for more information as it comes out!
2012 could be one hell of a year for European parks! <!-- s:D -->:D<!-- s:D -->
EDIT: The 'but not like Kingda Ka' part seems to rule out any kind of launch system, so maybe the world's highest coaster with a traditional lifthill?
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AstroDan
I have been reading about this over on TPR. Looks very exciting! Response to Rainbow MagicLand and Gardaland, i think!
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What?! So why are they putting in some beyond-cheap crap from Preston this year, a coaster so cheap that I think even Lightwater Valley and Pleasurewood Hills would think it would be below them? I presumed they had absolutely no money left! Why else would you build this?!
Still, sounds exciting. I'd love to see a huge Gravity Group. I'm a bit worried about that "world's biggest" though, implies it might be a crap coaster type (world's tallest wild mouse or whatever).
Still, sounds exciting. I'd love to see a huge Gravity Group. I'm a bit worried about that "world's biggest" though, implies it might be a crap coaster type (world's tallest wild mouse or whatever).
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[quote=""Sam""]What?! So why are they putting in some beyond-cheap crap from Preston this year, a coaster so cheap that I think even Lightwater Valley and Pleasurewood Hills would think it would be below them? I presumed they had absolutely no money left! Why else would you build this?![/quote]
Maybe they're taking the Disney approach of cheap ride, expensive theming...
As examples...
At least actually look at construction photos before being so dismissive of a new ride...
Maybe they're taking the Disney approach of cheap ride, expensive theming...
As examples...
At least actually look at construction photos before being so dismissive of a new ride...
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I've seen those construction photos.
This isn't the Disney approach, Disney use a slightly cheaper "expensive" manufacuturer and then add TONS of theming. Vekoma might not make thrill coasters as good as Intamin and B&M, but they'd be regarded as a top-tier high quality manufacturer in terms of quality and price.
Preston aren't this. Both them and the ride system are an absolute joke. These should only be added to a tiny park for it's first coaster. A park that is installing a huge coaster next year and already has iSpeed and Katun should not be adding this. Theming looks decent, but not staggering so far. It's not indoors...
This isn't the Disney approach, Disney use a slightly cheaper "expensive" manufacuturer and then add TONS of theming. Vekoma might not make thrill coasters as good as Intamin and B&M, but they'd be regarded as a top-tier high quality manufacturer in terms of quality and price.
Preston aren't this. Both them and the ride system are an absolute joke. These should only be added to a tiny park for it's first coaster. A park that is installing a huge coaster next year and already has iSpeed and Katun should not be adding this. Theming looks decent, but not staggering so far. It's not indoors...
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AstroDan
It still seems odd. The manufacturer of their new coaster seems literally beyond even 'cheap'. In fact, most of their non thrill coasters are from cheap end manufacturers!
Just search for the Nitro coaster in France... that is pretty similar to this ..
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Just search for the Nitro coaster in France... that is pretty similar to this ..
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This park looks like it could have a great future, but really, I'd rather have no new ride than there 2011 rollercoaster. It seems like a mish-mash of massive investments, fit for large parks, and then really pathetic ones even the smallest parks wouldn't want. I'm excited to see what the 2012 coaster will be, 2012 is going to be huge for coaster geeks in europe!
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Just want to point out, whilst it may not be up there with Katun and Ispeed, it still looks like a unqiue addition and seems like a different variation of what is essentially a duelling wild mouse.
Anyway, yes whilst Preston aren't the most well known manufacturer, I thought they manufactured Disney's Toy Story Midway Mania systems and also the new Maus Au Choclat at Phantasialand? I'm fairly sure there has to be a certain amount of quality behind them to get those kind of customers...
Anyway, yes whilst Preston aren't the most well known manufacturer, I thought they manufactured Disney's Toy Story Midway Mania systems and also the new Maus Au Choclat at Phantasialand? I'm fairly sure there has to be a certain amount of quality behind them to get those kind of customers...
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I think Alterface are behind some of Maus au Chocolat, could be just the video and interactive element, and Preston did the ride system.
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[quote=""James6""]Anyway, yes whilst Preston aren't the most well known manufacturer, I thought they manufactured Disney's Toy Story Midway Mania systems and also the new Maus Au Choclat at Phantasialand? I'm fairly sure there has to be a certain amount of quality behind them to get those kind of customers...[/quote]
Whilst I appreciate the point, I think the laughable photos and POV of Nitro in France speaks for itself. A basic dark ride system can't be that difficult to do. They should clearly steer clear of making coasters. I wouldn't really like to see Sally Corporation attempt a hyper-coaster and I wouldn't like to see B&M do a dark ride (just kidding, of course I would :P ).
This coaster looks absolute rubbish, and unless they absolutely cover it with theming like an ugly person covered in inch-deep make-up, I can't see this being anything over than an embarrassment and a joke for the park.
Whilst I appreciate the point, I think the laughable photos and POV of Nitro in France speaks for itself. A basic dark ride system can't be that difficult to do. They should clearly steer clear of making coasters. I wouldn't really like to see Sally Corporation attempt a hyper-coaster and I wouldn't like to see B&M do a dark ride (just kidding, of course I would :P ).
This coaster looks absolute rubbish, and unless they absolutely cover it with theming like an ugly person covered in inch-deep make-up, I can't see this being anything over than an embarrassment and a joke for the park.
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I don't at all see the problem with them adding this as a support coaster...
So what if it isn't as good as Katun or iSpeed? I doubt they are aiming for it to be... Since they seem to be aiming with a heavily themed coaster I doubt it will be a so called 'joke' or embarrassment, and could well be a solid family coaster for them...
But of course, let's write off a coaster because we've seen a POV... Let alone the fact that this is actually a bigger version of Nitro and that Mirabilandia do have a decent history of building some excellent theming (Reset and Katun's station are prime examples)...
I have lots of faith in the park for this addition... Not every new ride has to be the best ride ever...
So what if it isn't as good as Katun or iSpeed? I doubt they are aiming for it to be... Since they seem to be aiming with a heavily themed coaster I doubt it will be a so called 'joke' or embarrassment, and could well be a solid family coaster for them...
But of course, let's write off a coaster because we've seen a POV... Let alone the fact that this is actually a bigger version of Nitro and that Mirabilandia do have a decent history of building some excellent theming (Reset and Katun's station are prime examples)...
I have lots of faith in the park for this addition... Not every new ride has to be the best ride ever...
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AstroDan
No, it does not. But this looks rubbish. Why not get Mack oh vekoma onto it.
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[quote=""AstroDan""]Why not get Mack or vekoma onto it.[/quote]
Because this will probably cost less than €1million, whereas a Mack or Vekoma could cost at least triple that. They already have a Vekoma junior coaster, and there are hardly any duelling children's coasters out there so this makes a nice alternative. The coaster might not look like much, but it's for children. In the same way a Big Apple looks naff, but children love it. Add this with Miribilandia's excellent theming and you've got a recipe for a good, solid kids' coaster, whilst saving a few million Euros for 2012's megaproject.
Come on, Alton (allegedly world class, though that's clearly debatable) for years had just an unthemed Pinfari (!) Super Dragon as their kids coaster, and now they have nothing at all. A Vekoma junior coaster a well as a duelling, well-themed Preston is pretty damn good I'd say, especially when they're saving up for a world's tallest next year.
EDIT: So this new Preston is going to cost €5million! That's ludicrous. I'm assuming the majority of that is on theming though, so the point potentially still stands that if they'd gone with Mack or Vekoma the price tag would be higher.
Also, the park have an L&T Systems Junior coaster also! They cater for children as well as they cater for thrill seekers it seems. Alton! Take note!
Because this will probably cost less than €1million, whereas a Mack or Vekoma could cost at least triple that. They already have a Vekoma junior coaster, and there are hardly any duelling children's coasters out there so this makes a nice alternative. The coaster might not look like much, but it's for children. In the same way a Big Apple looks naff, but children love it. Add this with Miribilandia's excellent theming and you've got a recipe for a good, solid kids' coaster, whilst saving a few million Euros for 2012's megaproject.
Come on, Alton (allegedly world class, though that's clearly debatable) for years had just an unthemed Pinfari (!) Super Dragon as their kids coaster, and now they have nothing at all. A Vekoma junior coaster a well as a duelling, well-themed Preston is pretty damn good I'd say, especially when they're saving up for a world's tallest next year.
EDIT: So this new Preston is going to cost €5million! That's ludicrous. I'm assuming the majority of that is on theming though, so the point potentially still stands that if they'd gone with Mack or Vekoma the price tag would be higher.
Also, the park have an L&T Systems Junior coaster also! They cater for children as well as they cater for thrill seekers it seems. Alton! Take note!
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So, Max Adventures Master Thai looks pretty lame, although I guess it will make a good children's coaster.
Photos from here and RCDB.
^ That's Katun's first turn out of the station at the bottom of those two pictures.
I can't help but think considering it costs €5 million, theming is pretty sparse, when in theory it is theming that is costing the bulk of the money.
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2012 Coaster Update: It is now being reported that the new 2012 coaster will be an S&S 4D, with investment of €20 million. This could make it easier for the park to add the "biggest in the world of its type" label, but seems a bit out of the blue, and so far is completely without factual base. Eejanaika cost €31 million, and has no theming at all. I don't see how an S&S 4D could be built for just €20 million, unless it will be a custom design. Saying that, a ground-hugging (launched?) 4D with tunnels would be absolutely incredible, but that's just me speculating on what is already a baseless rumour.
Photos from here and RCDB.
^ That's Katun's first turn out of the station at the bottom of those two pictures.I can't help but think considering it costs €5 million, theming is pretty sparse, when in theory it is theming that is costing the bulk of the money.
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2012 Coaster Update: It is now being reported that the new 2012 coaster will be an S&S 4D, with investment of €20 million. This could make it easier for the park to add the "biggest in the world of its type" label, but seems a bit out of the blue, and so far is completely without factual base. Eejanaika cost €31 million, and has no theming at all. I don't see how an S&S 4D could be built for just €20 million, unless it will be a custom design. Saying that, a ground-hugging (launched?) 4D with tunnels would be absolutely incredible, but that's just me speculating on what is already a baseless rumour.
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