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Re: Cedar Point 2013: B&M Wingrider

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:50 am
by Dingerbell
Rollercoaster5000 wrote: This was found on tpr.. looks like it will have a pretzel loop off the lift o.O
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To me it looks:
Lift
Swarm drop
Zero-G
Turn
Inclined loop/helix
Bend to the right (maybe barrel roll)
Immelmann
Inline twist
Corkscrew
Break

Fairly similar to the Swarm then, but with the added Immelmann:

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Re: Cedar Point 2013: B&M Wingrider

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 12:11 pm
by Benzin
Doesn't look anything like Swarm...

Shame if Disaster Transport is going... That was fun... And also weird that they aren't replacing Wildcat...

Re: Cedar Point 2013: B&M Wingrider

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:11 pm
by Pricey ;)
The shape is completely different to the swarm?

I like the idea of a pretzel loop maybe this will be 4D. ;)

Re: Cedar Point 2013: B&M Wingrider

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:05 pm
by Blaze
Pretzel loop? No. If anything, it'll be B&M's take on the Norwegian loop.

Which would be very interesting on a wingrider.

Re: Cedar Point 2013: B&M Wingrider

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:39 pm
by Sam
Why couldn't it have a pretzel loop? It's basically be Swarm's first drop and then again in reverse!

Re: Cedar Point 2013: B&M Wingrider

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:18 pm
by Blaze
That's a Norwegian loop. ;)

Pretzel loops don't roll at the top.

Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:07 pm
by DannyJ
Dunno if there is already a topic already discussing this.

But the concept art for the new wing walker at cedar point is here.
not a offical site but its the best source i can find. photos from facebook.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 4158_n.jpg

Looking awesome , the zero g with a double ride through ftw ;D 

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 0005_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 5240_n.jpg
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos- ... 1141_n.jpg

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:45 pm
by ImURNemesis
Looks epic! Like the kraken on drugs!

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:46 pm
by SwEDEN
That drops original........

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:25 pm
by Pennywise
That coaster looks absolutely sublime; certainly increasing my desire to visit Cedar Point someday! Contrary the majority opinion, too, I love the name. This will probably be the best wingrider layout in the world, and so it'd be nice if they put some effort into theming it too... they probably won't, and that's a shame.

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:39 pm
by ImURNemesis
They themed Maverick to a decent standered!

The logo suggests it will involve a mythical brid creature. So if they gave it a nice griffin theme I would be happy!

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:07 pm
by Fragga
Hmmm it looks good I suppose, I'm sure it will kick ass but often I look at b&m coasters and can't help but yawn at the cookie cutter element order they use over and over...I really wish a park would ask them to push boundaries like intamin have done In recent years.  I'm going back to CP next year so I'll report my findings on this.

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:47 pm
by JAMMYD777
I present to you my No Limits Recreation of GateKeeper, with entrance keyhole feature!

Enjoy!


Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:49 pm
by Deleted
Cedar Points official one.


Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Sat Apr 06, 2013 10:39 pm
by Aidan Lowe
And here it is in action in its first test run taken 4.4.13

http://oi48.tinypic.com/118j0c0.jpg

[Edit] May 6th POV

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:37 pm
by Vladimir Bobinski
https://www.cedarpoint.com/blog-article ... Keeper-POV

Absolutely love the layout, I'm glad they don't have a "dead on" angle approach through the key holes, I especially love the return maneuvers around the,.

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:58 am
by bensaund
It doesn't really have me thinking "WOW", its another US coaster which has all the hight and speed and no theme. When I look at The Swarm and all the theming on that plus near misses, I'd rather go for The Swarm, I like the theme and near misses.

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:50 pm
by Benjsh
It looks totally souless and "plonked" like most coasters in the US do outside of Florida.  Tall? Yes. Fast? Most likely. Memorable? Perhaps not.

More or less every coaster they make over there could be the exact same ride just in a different colour. It's really dull. Makes me happy that AT actually have to abide by strict Height laws. At least then we get interesting layouts and LOTS of theming and near misses. That's what makes a ride for me. Not the height and speed.

Just take Nemesis for example. By no means the tallest B&M Inverted coaster but still my favourite by a DISTANCE and I've been lucky enough to ride quite a few of them all around the world too.

The Smiler kicks it's ass for New Rollercoaster of the year.

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:53 pm
by DrReeve
ImURNemesis wrote: They themed Maverick to a decent standered!

The logo suggests it will involve a mythical brid creature. So if they gave it a nice griffin theme I would be happy!
cedar theming LOL maverick is alright no where near where it could be. And plus there is no theme. It's like making nemesis above ground and having no monster. It's imagination themeing

Re: Gate Keeper - New Cedar Point wing-walker .

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:44 pm
by Vladimir Bobinski
Benjsh wrote: It looks totally souless and "plonked" like most coasters in the US do outside of Florida.  Tall? Yes. Fast? Most likely. Memorable? Perhaps not.

More or less every coaster they make over there could be the exact same ride just in a different colour. It's really dull. Makes me happy that AT actually have to abide by strict Height laws. At least then we get interesting layouts and LOTS of theming and near misses. That's what makes a ride for me. Not the height and speed.

Just take Nemesis for example. By no means the tallest B&M Inverted coaster but still my favourite by a DISTANCE and I've been lucky enough to ride quite a few of them all around the world too.

The Smiler kicks it's ass for New Rollercoaster of the year.
You've just made my point for me, take away all the theming from Nemesis and the Smiler, even without riding the Smiler we know both these rides are best in class for their ride experience of their type, which for me comes first. Nemesis has never dissapointed me, if leaves me wanting munchies.

Gatekeeper is no different, it raises the game on a wing-walker, we all know they aren't out and out white knuckle, if anything this adds to cedar points lineup, which I hope some day I can visit.

Sometimes I think the theming card is played a bit too much as some sort of trump card.  Not all North american parks can't do theming mind.  Dollywood, Busch Gardens, Seaworld, etc.

Mind the difference this ride has made to the entrance (coaster force photo) is incredible.