Nothing has been confirmed re launch or chain lifts as far as I know. The smart money seems to be on a launch up the first lift at least.Element 115 wrote: is there still any chance of a launch up the first hill or has a normal lift hill been confirmed?
John Wardley stated "2 lifts" in his interview. So I guess not...Evil Lewis wrote:Nothing has been confirmed re launch or chain lifts as far as I know. The smart money seems to be on a launch up the first lift at least.Element 115 wrote: is there still any chance of a launch up the first hill or has a normal lift hill been confirmed?
Guess we'll have to wait and see.
the ride is in a G.D.A. so no need for planing so size and area are fine as long as they stay in the G.D.A. box the hight is the only thing that would need planing if out of G.D.A. and the top of this ride is and has planning, also we have a confirmed worlds first by MR jonh Wardley still no clue to what it is though.chrisbacktothe80s wrote: Quote from: chrisbacktothe80s on Today at 11:34 AMMy first post, so as always prob wrong but looking at the hi-res pics it appears people are right, and the spider will move as well as having some sort of effect as can be seen by the 3/4 hydrolic lines in front of the cement pump as well as the blue gas/water pipe leading from the pressure vessel towards the same place as the hydrolic lines ?No offence to you personally but I need to say I really wish people would stop saying its gonna move and realise it IS static.... It specifies this in the planning permission
No offence taken, however ...planning, no offence meant to you either but the building I work in had planning for no more than 100 000 square feet ..... its 140 000 . It took the council over a year to work that out, but suprise suprise it still stands cos in this world money talks and i`m afraid it always will. Planning is not worth the paper it is written on.
However it may be static and will mean that those at least 4 inch in diameter black cables are there only to take the waster spray/co2 to the misters on the arms. Just seems a bit ott for that.
World beating = X number of inversionssibic wrote:the ride is in a G.D.A. so no need for planing so size and area are fine as long as they stay in the G.D.A. box the hight is the only thing that would need planing if out of G.D.A. and the top of this ride is and has planning, also we have a confirmed worlds first by MR jonh Wardley still no clue to what it is though.chrisbacktothe80s wrote: Quote from: chrisbacktothe80s on Today at 11:34 AMMy first post, so as always prob wrong but looking at the hi-res pics it appears people are right, and the spider will move as well as having some sort of effect as can be seen by the 3/4 hydrolic lines in front of the cement pump as well as the blue gas/water pipe leading from the pressure vessel towards the same place as the hydrolic lines ?No offence to you personally but I need to say I really wish people would stop saying its gonna move and realise it IS static.... It specifies this in the planning permission
No offence taken, however ...planning, no offence meant to you either but the building I work in had planning for no more than 100 000 square feet ..... its 140 000 . It took the council over a year to work that out, but suprise suprise it still stands cos in this world money talks and i`m afraid it always will. Planning is not worth the paper it is written on.
However it may be static and will mean that those at least 4 inch in diameter black cables are there only to take the waster spray/co2 to the misters on the arms. Just seems a bit ott for that.
To move the loos would be very costly and need planing, as this is a grade 2 listed area might be hard to find a home for them.
Good idea, but I can't see it happening as everyone in que will see this several times before riding so you would expect it... However if it was done under cover ...Element 115 wrote: very unlikely but just throwing this out there :
what if you began to climb up the first lift hill and at about the halfway point the train stops and you hear the sound of chains snapping, then the train falls down the lift hill backwards before being launched up to the top and continuing along the rest of the track
once again very unlikely due to train timing issues etc but would be awesome if you weren't expecting it
also would this feature count as a worlds first element?
That post should really be in the speculation topic, but it is a cool idea. There is a ride that has a 'snapping chain effect' on a lift hill (Big Grizzly Mountain @ Hong Kong Disneyland - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCH55433lbI)The ride also incorporates a launch. I don't think that it would be impossible to rig both parts up within the same track piece with a little ingenuity. I don't think this is planned for The Smiler though as it would not really fit with the theme. (eg. Why would the Correction Machine be broken?)Element 115 wrote: very unlikely but just throwing this out there :
what if you began to climb up the first lift hill and at about the halfway point the train stops and you hear the sound of chains snapping, then the train falls down the lift hill backwards before being launched up to the top and continuing along the rest of the track
once again very unlikely due to train timing issues etc but would be awesome if you weren't expecting it
also would this feature count as a worlds first element?
Since RITA? I never considered Rita to be all that good to be honest! This has the potential to be a Nemesis-beater... (although Nemesis is such a one of a kind that I doubt this will happen... might be more of a Nemesis-equaller.Javs wrote: I know this is the construction topic, so I will start by saying how great it is to see the ride really taking shape. But Oh My God, I have to say, this really could give the like of Maverick a run for its money in terms of ride thrills! So far, this is the best looking rollercoaster that AT have installed since RITA!!!
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And where did you see this? Don't say plans because we know they are wrong!RCT3Bross wrote: The first lift is on a 45 degree angle and the second is on a 90 degree angle (Vertical).
Plans, Game sneak peak and screen shots.The Terminator wrote:And where did you see this? Don't say plans because we know they are wrong!RCT3Bross wrote: The first lift is on a 45 degree angle and the second is on a 90 degree angle (Vertical).
There is no landscaping yet for a vertical lift, I find that a bit odd at this stage of construction.
The plans aren't wrong they just removed some inversions in the plans. No the plans are wrong, look at the levels of the batwing,cobra. They might follow the rough route but they are wrong so shouldn't be trusted, also don't believe everything in that game.RCT3Bross wrote:Plans, Game sneak peak and screen shots.The Terminator wrote:And where did you see this? Don't say plans because we know they are wrong!RCT3Bross wrote: The first lift is on a 45 degree angle and the second is on a 90 degree angle (Vertical).
There is no landscaping yet for a vertical lift, I find that a bit odd at this stage of construction.
Alton Towers has said the game is a 3D version of the ride. The Batwing and Cobra Roll are exact as the plans they where very low even on the plans. Like I said the Plans where made to keep the 14 inversions secret. The rumors of the first inverted drop came from the game screen shot on the site and you see that now. The plans we're a diversion to give us a Idea about the ride while they could make it go upside down 14 times.The Terminator wrote:No the plans are wrong, look at the levels of the batwing,cobra. They might follow the rough route but they are wrong so shouldn't be trusted, also don't believe everything in that game.RCT3Bross wrote:Plans, Game sneak peak and screen shots.The Terminator wrote: And where did you see this? Don't say plans because we know they are wrong!
There is no landscaping yet for a vertical lift, I find that a bit odd at this stage of construction.
I'll wait until I see solid evidence ie channels being dug and footers in place before I'll believe for certain that's what's going there.
