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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:02 pm
by MatthewR1990
Instant Mix wrote: The only problem with "the flasher" is that it won't be bright enough. Like, riders wouldn't notice it at all. There must be something built into the train to flash.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting? Believe me you would see it lmao.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:52 am
by aldredd
The problem with the strobe idea is that it can trigger severe epileptic fits. Even if you have warnings, not everyone will know they have it / it's something that can only come to light later in life - and there isn't really going to be a worse place to have an epileptic fit than half way through a 14-inversion coaster!

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:05 am
by DannyNewbro
aldredd wrote: The problem with the strobe idea is that it can trigger severe epileptic fits. Even if you have warnings, not everyone will know they have it / it's something that can only come to light later in life - and there isn't really going to be a worse place to have an epileptic fit than half way through a 14-inversion coaster!
Well what about Nemesis: Sub-Terra?

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:37 am
by Javs
So long as the ride discloses the fact there are strobe lights on the ride information signs, it is not a problem.  However, the lights would be placed in such a position so as not to cause any harm to people not on the ride.  And yes, there are plenty of lights out there that will be very easy to see and very disorientating if used correctly!  Just think car headlights flashing.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:41 am
by PSxyz
DannyNewbro wrote:
aldredd wrote: The problem with the strobe idea is that it can trigger severe epileptic fits. Even if you have warnings, not everyone will know they have it / it's something that can only come to light later in life - and there isn't really going to be a worse place to have an epileptic fit than half way through a 14-inversion coaster!
Well what about Nemesis: Sub-Terra?
N-ST is nowhere near the same assault on your body, Strobes could be a little too much.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:15 am
by nickjmcarvalho
Sorry strobing only effects 1% of all people with epilepsy. So people that know that strobing affects there epilepsy would stay clear of the ride.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:40 am
by getothing
Today ?? Update please :)

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:51 am
by ethanthecoasterfreak
^ You're not very patient are you... Be grateful. Besides, good things come to those who wait.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:06 am
by Roodlesnouter
samtummo wrote: Long time lurker, first time poster.

A launch is also very unlikely for several reasons. Not only would this make the first part of the ride uncomfortable, it would be near impossible to run any type of duelling element.
Why would a launch up the first lift hill be uncomfortable and when has anything been confirmed that this will indeed be a dueling coaster? I know it has been tossed around but I was unaware of this being fact.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:08 am
by ManiaMuse
getothing wrote: Today ?? Update please :)
Weather is miserable and grey in UK today. Poor visibility = helicopter can't fly.

Be patient. Besides, you'll see more has been completed if you wait longer.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:14 am
by getothing
Alton towers is open today ,people make some the smiler photos ¡

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:16 am
by epicV3N0M
Some good theming could be incorporated into the flasher- headlights turning on and off and something (e.g. smiler logo) moving closer with each flash?

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:16 am
by Roodlesnouter
getothing wrote: Alton towers is open today ,people make some the smiler photos ¡
Not open until next week

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:49 am
by Jevaaaans
roodlesnouter wrote:
getothing wrote: Alton towers is open today ,people make some the smiler photos ¡
Not open until next week
There's some John Lewis corporate thing on today. Two of my friends are going as their mum/sisters work at John Lewis

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:00 am
by TomL
Yes. All the rides are open including Oblivion and The Sanctuary. I would expect AT to be treating this as a practice weekend for new workers. I know someone whos fiance works at john lewis, shes going all weekend staying at the hotel and going to the waterpark. Isn't the Scictly come dancing dancer thing going on today where they had a limit to how many tickets they sold. something like 600 or 6000. cant really remember

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:15 pm
by Danny
Mi7 won't be going up in the air today or tomorrow as snow is due tomorrow

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:51 pm
by Instant Mix
MatthewR1990 wrote:
Instant Mix wrote: The only problem with "the flasher" is that it won't be bright enough. Like, riders wouldn't notice it at all. There must be something built into the train to flash.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting? Believe me you would see it lmao.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting in broad daylight? Not too sure. It'd be noticeable, but not have as much of a profound effect

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:15 pm
by simononestop
yeah not so good in daylight but if you strobed the lights at an object(theming) or near miss it might work. or with some smoke/mist it would probably work.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:34 pm
by dazza4783
Instant Mix wrote:
MatthewR1990 wrote:
Instant Mix wrote: The only problem with "the flasher" is that it won't be bright enough. Like, riders wouldn't notice it at all. There must be something built into the train to flash.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting? Believe me you would see it lmao.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting in broad daylight? Not too sure. It'd be noticeable, but not have as much of a profound effect
If the tunnels in the plans are still going to feature then i assume the flasher will be in them, if not then the flash on it will be reminiscent of on-ride photo flashes, maybe the flasher will double as the on-ride photo.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:18 pm
by Javs
Instant Mix wrote:
MatthewR1990 wrote:
Instant Mix wrote: The only problem with "the flasher" is that it won't be bright enough. Like, riders wouldn't notice it at all. There must be something built into the train to flash.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting? Believe me you would see it lmao.
Have you ever seen strobe lighting in broad daylight? Not too sure. It'd be noticeable, but not have as much of a profound effect

Are you saying you never see the flashing of the on-ride cameras?  Think a multitude of those flashing in your face.