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Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:58 pm
by dazza4783
kelly.carter.79230 wrote:
Phild94 wrote:
mixer114 wrote: thats not the link i saw here is the central tv POV shows you a lot more of inside the station and the train starts from inside the station
Spoiler
ULTRA MEGA HUGE SPOILER!!!!!!!!

Not that i'm complaining .. just trying to warn others :)

except the video is inverted horizontally XD

EDIT: Pit Theming :D
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can I just point out the video on the itv website has bin flipped if you look the first lift the vertical lift on the ride is on the left and when you go up the vertical lift you the go down towards the right not left ha as if no one said anything about that
That has been pointed out, James97 has posted a corrected version above.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 5:59 pm
by arE Y0u R3AdY t0 Sm1Le?
JayTricky wrote:
arE Y0u R3AdY t0 Sm1Le? wrote:
Kirsty25 wrote: Alton Towers confirmed that their claim of a second hidden element was a typing error and it was in fact secret hidden element.
What was the SE,
Im soo sad that there might not be one! Still a fab coaster but it does not have that special Alton touch to it :-(
Aw common lad you're kidding right? Nemesis does not have a cheap gimmick and its one of the greatest coasters in the world. When will people realise IT DOES NOT NEED A SECRET ELEMENT TO MAKE IT GREAT. Think TH13TEEN...

It has Altons touch all over it. Look at the Marmaliser! The Marketing!
Ok, I forgot about Nemesis (KILL ME NOW ;) ) But my pint still stands! and i don't think there was any need for that.... haha ;) :P

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:02 pm
by GoldWolf
Didn't John Wardley say in an interview that you had to ride The Smiler to find out its other secret element? The game also points to that with the ability to unlock several hidden secrets when the ride opens. All this just points to something on the trains IMO...

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:03 pm
by Rollercoasters4Life
James97 wrote: The Smiler POV Corrected, It will be available in 720p at some point but youtube is still processing it,
Nearly correct but the first shots of the station and the shot before the first lift hill were correct. Its just the POV that was incorrect. Near enough though! :D

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:04 pm
by PeteB
To all who are speculating about the Secret Element.

The secret was 14 inversions. There is nothing else. This is world record breaking.

Alton Towers did release a statement which said there was a second secret element. This was later revised and it came to our attention it was merely a typo on the press release.

Please do not pester Mr Wardley with unnecessary emails asking him for more details on the ride, he is very busy at the moment completing work on The Smiler and doing media interviews. All will be revealed soon enough and TowersTimes will continue to bring you the latest news.

Thank you.  :)

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:04 pm
by JayTricky
Evostance wrote:
JayTricky wrote:
lucy2244 wrote: I don't really think we can completely rule out a SE
Just because we've seen this it doesn't suddenly rule out everything that has happened before to persuade us that there is infact a SE. Even if it's just effects, I still believe there will be one, John wardley said it himself. Every coaster with the 'sw' code name has had some sort of secret weapon and I don't believe this will break the trend, I just think it'll twist it and the secret element will be something other than track. Obliviously I don't know this, just a guess :D
Smilers secret weapon is the fact it has 14 inversions. The most of any roller coaster in the whole world. It's as simple as that.
Until next year when someone makes a 15 inversions coaster and the smiler becomes another Eurofighter?  That just doesn't seem like Alton's style.
Perhaps that's all they're going for
Alton will not lose the record next year. I doubt they would for many years. Look how long Collosus held its crown. Quite a long time really.

I'm just going off what we have seen. Which is proper evidence that track wise there is NO gimmick. And I'm happy there isn't. The only shred of hope of there being a worlds first element or gimmick would be some sort of effect inside the station. Which is still a minute possibility.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:09 pm
by JayTricky
arE Y0u R3AdY t0 Sm1Le? wrote:
JayTricky wrote:
arE Y0u R3AdY t0 Sm1Le? wrote: What was the SE,
Im soo sad that there might not be one! Still a fab coaster but it does not have that special Alton touch to it :-(
Aw common lad you're kidding right? Nemesis does not have a cheap gimmick and its one of the greatest coasters in the world. When will people realise IT DOES NOT NEED A SECRET ELEMENT TO MAKE IT GREAT. Think TH13TEEN...

It has Altons touch all over it. Look at the Marmaliser! The Marketing!
Ok, I forgot about Nemesis (KILL ME NOW ;) ) But my pint still stands! and i don't think there was any need for that.... haha ;) :P
Your pint still stands? You better drink it then!  :lol:

I'm not having a go. Quite the opposite. Just pointing out that Altons touch is obviously all over this ride. Just look at the damn thing. It's frickin insane.

A gimmicky trick track does not equal success and make a great coaster.

What does make a good coaster is a full and fun layout with variety and good pacing. Spots of airtime and intensity. Visually inviting theming elements and music. A good back story to suck you in and make you feel involved. The Smiler has all of these and is a world record breaker to boot!

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:14 pm
by Katherine
mixer114 wrote:
mixer114 wrote: :D
JW599 wrote: There is a glimpse of the indoor section here:
Spoiler
you beat me to it  :D  realy good POV but there are still some secrets blanked out so we are still in for some suprises
thats not the link i saw here is the central tv POV shows you a lot more of inside the station and the train starts from inside the station

This is a full POV from the beginning, do not click the spoiler unless you wish to view it. Thanks
Spoiler
Edited by kirsty25 - put a spoiler warning in for the spoiler text
On that page...
""Alton Towers will open its new £18 million ride called The Smiler next Sunday. With 14 loops to the previous record of 10, it is the largest roller-coaster ever built.
ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO""

Well they've got the date wrong...

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:16 pm
by Hitch
Evostance wrote:
James97 wrote: The Smiler POV Corrected, It will be available in 720p at some point but youtube is still processing it,
Have just noticed that now the writing is the wrong way around  :lol:  That doesn't seem to make sense, unless the camera was recording in mirror mode (but then why is the writing the right way around)

This ride is messing with my mind and im no where near it!
lolwut? Your messing with my mind, at the start in the station the video was actually the right way around, so its now the wrong way around, but the actual pov is all the correct way.

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:19 pm
by Danny
As much as I would love to see a pre show before the first lift with 3d projection mapping I can almost assure you there won't be, all I can imagine is they have brakes before both lift hills so they can get the timing for th duelling right so if a train leaves the station too late the other train can wait bait longer by the 2nd lift hill.
It's getting quite boring with people keep bringing up these ideas, this is the construction topic not speculation
Rant over

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:25 pm
by Kieran141
Well this confirms there is no whasing machine element :)

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:26 pm
by Ladyofthelake
Smiler on ITV Central now!  :lol:

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:28 pm
by JayTricky
Kieran141 wrote: Well this confirms there is no whasing machine element :)
It's a shame as it would have been a quick way to wash my clothes.  ;)

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:34 pm
by Fred_Delicious
Central news just confirmed the secret element

Edit - I did the spoiler tag thing wrong - removed what I put sorry, have no idea how forums work

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:36 pm
by arsenalfan-1
Fred_Delicious wrote: Central news just confirmed the secret element
Spoiler
Facial recognition software
Is this a joke or ...?

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:38 pm
by Fred_Delicious
No it was on central news just, with footage of what it looks like

Edit - I have made a huge mistake. Please delete my posts and profile altogether. I am an idiot

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:38 pm
by halso86
Ah, are they the faces that appear on the marmaliser at the start and half way round the ride?

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:39 pm
by arsenalfan-1
Fred_Delicious wrote: No it was on central news just, with footage of what it looks like
Well if that's true, I am very curious of how that will be used. :moj

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:41 pm
by Barty
Just watched the POV and it just makes me even more excited!! It looks amazing, 2nd world element or not! Hurtling around 14 inversions on the most densest rollercoaster in the world with very very close near misses is enough to put a smile on anyones face :) Dare i say it... will nemesis lose its king title after 19 years? I think so!!

I did notice there seems to be some fixings above the opening in the station, possibly for shutters that would open and close to let the indoor section stay dark? Im really looking forward to seeing what they are going to do with the indoor area theming wise etc...
LETS GET CORRECTED!!

Re: The Smiler - Construction Discussion

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 6:42 pm
by LCFCjames
Tall people.... watch out for The Flasher!
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