2011: Discussion

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I'm also quite worried. Something is usually announced by now, and we have little hints at what the attraction is every year. But no one has a clue what's going on, no construction. Nothing.

I wouldn't be surprised if they just plugged TH13TEEN and The Dark Forest for another year, and add a few more bit's of theming to each ride, it would work in my eyes.
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If Alton Towers are not adding a new attraction this year, they should hopefully have sort some time and money on giving some parts of the area a much needed makeover :) it would be nice to see oblivion repainted etc. :)
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Would love an X-Sector spruce up, and maybe remove some of the graffiti from the TH13TEEN queue-line, it's the little things that help the parks appearance :)
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It will be very disapointing not to have a new attraction for the first time in the history of the park. It will be very shocking, actually.

It's strange how we still haven't heard of anything going on at this stage, in fact, it's rather unsettling.
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[quote=""Blaze""]It will be very disapointing not to have a new attraction for the first time in the history of the park. It will be very shocking, actually.

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Would you rather have crap or wait for something decent? As I have said ten million times before, for me this season the best attraction is to whip out the paint brush and the Mr. Muscle and have a ruddy good clean.

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Do you honestly believe they will? And it wouldn't be the same as a new attraction. Hopefully they still are getting the 4D, even if it will be generic now without Shrek.
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Not it is doubtful that they will but park aesthetics are as good as some minor attraction, I mean does it not sadden you when you walk through certain areas of the park (X-Sector for example) and you see that they are in dire straits? Honestly clean a clean nice environment will do a lot for guests especially families.

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[quote=""Blaze""]Do you honestly believe they will? And it wouldn't be the same as a new attraction. Hopefully they still are getting the 4D, even if it will be generic now without Shrek.[/quote]

A 4D Cinema would be okay for the families I guess, but doesn't nearly every Theme Park have them? Most Merlin parks do. They're just far too overused in my opinion.
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Alton doesn't, and it's one of the things they'll need if they want to become a proper resort.
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How is a 4D Cinema needed?! It'd be fine if it was a special one-off film, such as Shrek 4D or something like "Honey I Shrunk The Audience". But as they aren't getting Shrek, I'm guessing they'll just have some "brought off the company stock film", that everyone 4D Cinema has?
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Alton currently lack indoor attractions, and they are aiming to open the theme park for longer period of times and offer more for guests during the winter so a 4D cinema would be an ideal attraction. It offers something that can be open all year round, ideal for the winter openings and offers something different that is currently not on offer at the theme park. It is a great attraction that would appeal to families.

It's not about everyone having a 4D cinema, this is about Alton offering a new indoor attraction that offers something different for guests. A general member of the public won't notice a 'generic' film or a custom made one that much, as long as it's entertaining it doesn't matter what the film is about.

Alton are trying to promote themselves as a resort to, they need a wide variety of attractions so then there is something for everyone, to keep guests options open. Some people would really be interested in a 4D cinema while others may not be, but then that's the same with every single ride/attraction at the theme park, there's something to do for everyone, whether you prefer riding roller coasters or prefer going into the calmer rides/attraction. A 4D cinema would strengthen the 'resort' image.
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I agree that overall a 4D cinema, if themed well on the outside, would be good for the park. I think the problem is that it's a ride that is universally disliked by enthusiasts, but tends to be popular with part of the GP and not with others, just like any other ride. I think it's unpopular among enthusiasts as it has an extremely low "re-ride value", which of course won't bother the GP as much. Even if not very popular, I think a high-quality 4D cinema with the capability of changing films for seasonal events, or for new films coming out in the cinema, is a staple of a good theme park like a log flume or a Mack teacups.

On the other hand, I think if the park get nothing new this year without any major resort-side additions or major refurbishments, I think it will be a new low for the park.
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I understand that it's a family year, and a 4D Cinema would suite most peoples needs for the park as a whole. But what concerns me is a lack of updates, or the fact that we've not heard anything about a new attraction.
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I don't mind either way if the towers don't bother adding anything new this year..

to be honest - I wouldn't be suprised if they strung out the thirteen marketing for another year

(as long as it isn't "Now more scary tahn evaaa!1!11!1!" - saving money for a new, better attraction in 2012/13 may not be a bad thing...)
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After having a new attraction every single year since 1980, for 2011 to be the first to not have one, even though the park is on a sounder financial footing than it probably ever has been, will look and feel very bad for the resort.
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At current i'm content with the park, Altons at a stage where each new attraction should be a quality and not a 'filler' attraction. There's nothing wrong with Maintenance as they save for a SW7. though if there is something new i'll also not complain, as the more guests they attract, the more money they get, meaning they can put more back into the park. So its a win win as far as i'm concerned.
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Filler doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to qualiyt in the sense of a theme park. In this context, filler is just the term given to attractions that 'fill' time in the day, while not being the main attractions themselves. All parks need 'filler' in the possitive sense, as not every attraction can be a major thrill coaster or epic dark ride, they also need attractions to soak up queues and provide a not neccassarily smaller, just not as dramatic thrill or enjoyment.
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We've had the new promo stuff sent over from Merlin HQ and Altons "Bubble" is TH13TEEN still.
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The two things that bother me are:

1) The people they are asking for ideas for a new attraction are corporate types looking for somewhere to hold an event. Hardly the biggest section of their target audience, and I can't believe that the vast amount of people on their are going to suggest something feasible. They'll probably suggest some pretty fun ideas but these are ideas that AT are extremely unlikely to carry out. Example:
Back to the Future!
A rollercoaster the travels backwards "literally" through time stopping every so often to experience past histories, starting from 2010 and ending in space
The ride will involve all the lights and elements of a real time machine going really really fast to get to the next century.
Also, why are they asking for ideas of what new attraction to get? They have a 10 year plan right?! Oh wait, that hasn't seen or heard of in 5-6 years. But honestly, do they have no plans at all?

2) No attraction would be fine, if they did carry out maintenance across the park, which we know would cost a fraction of the price of a new ride and would make an immeasurable difference. Just some paint here and there, some scenery touch-ups would go a long way, maybe even some work on the Air tunnel! However, I have next to no confidence that the park will carry out the scale of maintenance necessary, and will probably ignore everything rather than doing anything at all. That's probably a bit too pessimistic but all of their plans seem to have gone out of the window and they are coasting by, taking each day as it comes and hoping it'll be ok. :x

Who votes we all comment on the attraction suggestion page asking for a GCI woodie? :P
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[quote=""James""]Alton currently lack indoor attractions, and they are aiming to open the theme park for longer period of times and offer more for guests during the winter so a 4D cinema would be an ideal attraction. It offers something that can be open all year round, ideal for the winter openings and offers something different that is currently not on offer at the theme park. It is a great attraction that would appeal to families.

It's not about everyone having a 4D cinema, this is about Alton offering a new indoor attraction that offers something different for guests. A general member of the public won't notice a 'generic' film or a custom made one that much, as long as it's entertaining it doesn't matter what the film is about.

Alton are trying to promote themselves as a resort to, they need a wide variety of attractions so then there is something for everyone, to keep guests options open. Some people would really be interested in a 4D cinema while others may not be, but then that's the same with every single ride/attraction at the theme park, there's something to do for everyone, whether you prefer riding roller coasters or prefer going into the calmer rides/attraction. A 4D cinema would strengthen the 'resort' image.[/quote]

I quite agree with the Indoor Attraction thign. When you look at Disney and other major parks, most of their attractions are indoor/dark rides.

If nothing gets removed then I would say SW7 is as far as they need to go in terms of rollercoasters, as they'd have what, 8 or 9? And they say they want to appeal to families more? Well, indoor rides = family.

I'd love to see a 4D cinema and 2 or 3 more dark rides on top of that.

What we have so far:

Charlie - crap
Duel - was amazing as HH but now crap
Hex - amazing
Sea Life - decent

Whats been taken away:

3D Cinema - was good and a new 4D cinema could make up for the loss
Nickelodeon - was good
Black Hole - was good
Ice Show - was good
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