I still feel that the first drop doesn't look as large and as steep as I first thought it would be !
I am hoping I am proved wrong later on when we see the finished piece!
The woodland section just doesn't look as exciting as I / we all thought it was going to be! I thought the track would have went down into trenches and really close to the ground but it doesn't! I thought it would have been that close to the ground that would would have been able to touch the grass!
But sadly it won't!
I just hope the whole ride once finished will prove me wrong and that it will be a world class ride! ( Should be seeing that John Wardley is on the project team!)
Is there any other thrill engineers like JW on the team? Just wondering? 8)
SW6 Construction Part Two
- Nightfall
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Has anyone else notice that there is a gap in-between the two curves with almost straight track (could be were a close encounter scenery element goes ).
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That image proves one thing, [-o< Please re-theme Ritas queue line. The cattle pen has always annoyed me and put me of Corkscrew and if they don’t at least cover it up with a few trees I can see SW6 looking like in that image, overpowered.
Really good image by the way it surprised me when I first saw it!
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Has anyone else notice that there is a gap in-between the two curves with almost straight track (could be were a close encounter scenery element goes ).
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That image proves one thing, [-o< Please re-theme Ritas queue line. The cattle pen has always annoyed me and put me of Corkscrew and if they don’t at least cover it up with a few trees I can see SW6 looking like in that image, overpowered.
Really good image by the way it surprised me when I first saw it!
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- pj.frankophone
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Alton Towers haven't built a really decent ride since Nemesis... Oblivion is a great ride, but the hype around it was/is ridiculous... It's only 20 seconds long, and it seems even lamer now next to Griffon and Sheikra. Air was definitely better... Rita is ace but it's so short too!
I had such high hopes for SW6 but it looks like Alton Towers are once again relying on theming rather than on quality ride layouts.
I really really hope I'm wrong come March next year
I had such high hopes for SW6 but it looks like Alton Towers are once again relying on theming rather than on quality ride layouts.
I really really hope I'm wrong come March next year
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I guess we will have to wait until march till we can ride before we know if it is any good or not.
However i don't understand the remarks regarding the ride not going into trenches etc in the woodland part as the plans clearly showed the ride in the woodland and how close to the ground it was etc and didn't show it going into any trenches. It is unlikly it would have got planning permission had the ride gone into trenches in the woodland
However i don't understand the remarks regarding the ride not going into trenches etc in the woodland part as the plans clearly showed the ride in the woodland and how close to the ground it was etc and didn't show it going into any trenches. It is unlikly it would have got planning permission had the ride gone into trenches in the woodland
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I can see why the track doesn't go into trenches, as it would a nightmare to excavate. Also this would kill the trees as the roots would be damaged. With the way the coaster is as build will give the ride an amazing experience as when the trees grow back from being cut back will improve the ride no end.
Im pleased with how the ride looks. It so different from what the park offers at present, it looks as tho the ride will have maybe a semi launch (i.e slow launch) or fast lift. Im saying this due to the fact that the motors stop before the crest of the lift.
Im pleased with how the ride looks. It so different from what the park offers at present, it looks as tho the ride will have maybe a semi launch (i.e slow launch) or fast lift. Im saying this due to the fact that the motors stop before the crest of the lift.
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I have to admit, I'm disappointed with how the ride looks in those images.
As people have said, I was expecting some very sharp and swooping turns, yet the track looks as brittle as a Go Gator as someone put it.
There's no way in a hell a track layout like that is going to give anything near as I hoped, infact, it probably won't even topple Runaway Mine Train...
This has just heaped a lot more pressure on the dark section for sure.
It may sound harsh and silly considering the thing isn't finished yet, but I have fought and defended family coasters on other forums and on my blog following the initial "horror" at the family coaster description, but even I can't sit here and say I'm excited by these images.
Take away the trees and you're left with what looks like a very weak family ride.
As people have said, I was expecting some very sharp and swooping turns, yet the track looks as brittle as a Go Gator as someone put it.
There's no way in a hell a track layout like that is going to give anything near as I hoped, infact, it probably won't even topple Runaway Mine Train...
This has just heaped a lot more pressure on the dark section for sure.
It may sound harsh and silly considering the thing isn't finished yet, but I have fought and defended family coasters on other forums and on my blog following the initial "horror" at the family coaster description, but even I can't sit here and say I'm excited by these images.
Take away the trees and you're left with what looks like a very weak family ride.
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[quote=""Mackem Lad""]I have to admit, I'm disappointed with how the ride looks in those images.
As people have said, I was expecting some very sharp and swooping turns, yet the track looks as brittle as a Go Gator as someone put it.
There's no way in a hell a track layout like that is going to give anything near as I hoped, infact, it probably won't even topple Runaway Mine Train...
This has just heaped a lot more pressure on the dark section for sure.
It may sound harsh and silly considering the thing isn't finished yet, but I have fought and defended family coasters on other forums and on my blog following the initial "horror" at the family coaster description, but even I can't sit here and say I'm excited by these images.
Take away the trees and you're left with what looks like a very weak family ride.[/quote]
Other than actually having having a lift hill the track style/type is no different to the intamin motorbike coasters. As countless people have also said, the peak of the hills after the lift are actually at a lower level than the base of the first drop, which means a great deal of speed and airtime.
As people have said, I was expecting some very sharp and swooping turns, yet the track looks as brittle as a Go Gator as someone put it.
There's no way in a hell a track layout like that is going to give anything near as I hoped, infact, it probably won't even topple Runaway Mine Train...
This has just heaped a lot more pressure on the dark section for sure.
It may sound harsh and silly considering the thing isn't finished yet, but I have fought and defended family coasters on other forums and on my blog following the initial "horror" at the family coaster description, but even I can't sit here and say I'm excited by these images.
Take away the trees and you're left with what looks like a very weak family ride.[/quote]
Other than actually having having a lift hill the track style/type is no different to the intamin motorbike coasters. As countless people have also said, the peak of the hills after the lift are actually at a lower level than the base of the first drop, which means a great deal of speed and airtime.
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i think so aswell, i went on friday and the only hope is the scenery and the switch back area, the woods looking at those pictures will be awful! like mackem said!
and the first drop isnt steep..
and the first drop isnt steep..
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I don't see what people are getting at when they say the track looks brittle, in know way does it look brittle, just because it doesn't have a spine does not mean that it isn't strong and not capable of taking immense amounts of force.
I'm still thinking that this ride looks awesome! It will be carrying a lot of speed through the woods section, which will make it quite intense. Just my opinion anyway, obviously a lot of people appear to think otherwise though.
I'm still thinking that this ride looks awesome! It will be carrying a lot of speed through the woods section, which will make it quite intense. Just my opinion anyway, obviously a lot of people appear to think otherwise though.
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The supports do look thin however they are just as strong as the round supports intamin used to use, plus they help make the ride quetier. Inatmin designed the new style supports to be of the same strength as their old ones but to use less steal which resuces the cost of their rides and makes them more affordable esp in the current climate. Plus as has been said by other people Inatmin's mega costers due use this style track on parts of their rides such as some of the air time hills.
I think we need to wait until the ride is fully built and we have ridden it before it gets written off. After all those pictures only really showed one of the turns in the woodland and half of one of the air time hills (the elemin after this turn on the plans looks much more interesting.
Finally from the marketing we iknow at the least it will be a family thrill coaster and certainly no kiddy coaster. Merlin won't spend £12m+ on a new ride unless they are confident it is going to be a big success.
Also it is unlikly to feature a launched lift hill as the two new intamin launched moto coasters (jet rescue and moto coaster) feature a very different tyre luanch than SW6 and feature a row of tyres in the middle of the track. Where as SW6 Match Intamins normal Tyre driven lift hill.
I think we need to wait until the ride is fully built and we have ridden it before it gets written off. After all those pictures only really showed one of the turns in the woodland and half of one of the air time hills (the elemin after this turn on the plans looks much more interesting.
Finally from the marketing we iknow at the least it will be a family thrill coaster and certainly no kiddy coaster. Merlin won't spend £12m+ on a new ride unless they are confident it is going to be a big success.
Also it is unlikly to feature a launched lift hill as the two new intamin launched moto coasters (jet rescue and moto coaster) feature a very different tyre luanch than SW6 and feature a row of tyres in the middle of the track. Where as SW6 Match Intamins normal Tyre driven lift hill.
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Ive seen the wooded bit for myself and it looks ok at best but nothing to scream about. This ride is going to be good i dont think anyones saying that its going to be below good, but i think because it has been branded as a secret weapon everyones expectations sky rocket so when they see something that is not at the secret weapon level that we are all used to people begin to critisise. The atmosphere around the whole area is suprisingly bvery vibrant especially with those 3 guys running around in hoods, i'll give it to Alton this appears not be the best coaster out there but they are really putting their heart and soul into it
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i went up to the scarefest for a couple of hours yesterday and took 2 pics of SW6.
I must say that the site is massive and i cant wait to ride this, jus wait till you see what the secret element is
I must say that the site is massive and i cant wait to ride this, jus wait till you see what the secret element is
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We seen the first piece of the first drop being bolted in to place yesterday.
Also, the pictures shown of construction often don't seem to do the ride justice in how it really looks. Before writing things off, you really need to see it for your own eyes first at the very least.
The lift hill, whilst not as steep as Corkscrews looks just as high. Though it is slightly shorter, as it starts in a trench, then the height of the lift hill is comparable to Corkscrews. It also does look quite imposing. Also, only the top of the first drop is in place so it is quite hard to make the assumption already that it isn't steep. It does look a lot steeper than the photographs make out though.
Also, the pictures shown of construction often don't seem to do the ride justice in how it really looks. Before writing things off, you really need to see it for your own eyes first at the very least.
The lift hill, whilst not as steep as Corkscrews looks just as high. Though it is slightly shorter, as it starts in a trench, then the height of the lift hill is comparable to Corkscrews. It also does look quite imposing. Also, only the top of the first drop is in place so it is quite hard to make the assumption already that it isn't steep. It does look a lot steeper than the photographs make out though.
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Well that first drop looks pretty good. Looking at the height difference between this and the wooded section, it will certainly be travelling through it at some speed!
Just noticed too, is there a roof on the first floor of the station too! It is coming along fast!
Just noticed too, is there a roof on the first floor of the station too! It is coming along fast!
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I thought those footers looked a bit... massive? I just didn't want to comment on it because I don't know enough about it to make an accurate judgement lol.
Are footers usually that size or not?
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[/quote]The supports do look thin however they are just as strong as the round supports intamin used to use
I thought those footers looked a bit... massive? I just didn't want to comment on it because I don't know enough about it to make an accurate judgement lol.
Are footers usually that size or not?
[quote=""Magic is Nemesis""][quote=""barryzola""]If you go down to Abbey Woods today...
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I thought those footers looked a bit... massive? I just didn't want to comment on it because I don't know enough about it to make an accurate judgement lol.
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They are usually pretty large, but i can imagine they will cover all that up if its going to be all themed and stuff or at least i hope so :P
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I thought those footers looked a bit... massive? I just didn't want to comment on it because I don't know enough about it to make an accurate judgement lol.
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They are usually pretty large, but i can imagine they will cover all that up if its going to be all themed and stuff or at least i hope so :P
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Hey everyone, Decided to go to Alton Towers with the family for the first day of scarefest. Here are a few pics of SW6 to look at that you might enjoy.
As you can see, the lift is fully complete and the majority of the first drop is now complete aswell. I have to say, it does look alot bigger in person than the pictures seem.
The drop seems relatively steep aswell so it could be a great ride.
The station is very impressive. I can give my two cents on the situation as well. Firstly if you look up to the top floor of the steel structure you can see where the track goes. (you won't be able to see this in the pics unforunately) There is a distinct area on the top floor which would be perfect for a track to either pivot or drop through. Not only this, but on the roof of the steel structure there is a much smaller gap. Now this can be for a few reasons. Its either going to be a roof light or area for plant. Or it can possibly be where the end of the track pivots in to! Also, the large concrete hole at the bottom is definitely not the same size as the whole for the track, however it did seem roughly the same size as the hole in the roof. But that could be merely coincidence. If non of you understand what I mean I will make a diagram explaining my theory.
They also had a few live actors promoting the ride walking around ugland. They were great, they seemed to like walking slowly behind people to freak them out.
As you can see, the lift is fully complete and the majority of the first drop is now complete aswell. I have to say, it does look alot bigger in person than the pictures seem.
The drop seems relatively steep aswell so it could be a great ride.
The station is very impressive. I can give my two cents on the situation as well. Firstly if you look up to the top floor of the steel structure you can see where the track goes. (you won't be able to see this in the pics unforunately) There is a distinct area on the top floor which would be perfect for a track to either pivot or drop through. Not only this, but on the roof of the steel structure there is a much smaller gap. Now this can be for a few reasons. Its either going to be a roof light or area for plant. Or it can possibly be where the end of the track pivots in to! Also, the large concrete hole at the bottom is definitely not the same size as the whole for the track, however it did seem roughly the same size as the hole in the roof. But that could be merely coincidence. If non of you understand what I mean I will make a diagram explaining my theory.
They also had a few live actors promoting the ride walking around ugland. They were great, they seemed to like walking slowly behind people to freak them out.